Not the time to resist, says musharraf

President Pervez Musharraf said political reconciliation needed to be sought for stability of Pakistan not the resistance.

ARY OneWorld Leading News Protal of Pakistan (Urdu - English), Watch Live ARY News,8/14/2008 3:11:34 PM

so mr mush, y r y resisting??? y dont u go home when 3 assemblies have showed no confidence in u??? when will u get unpopular???? when u say tht its not the time to resist, whom r u addressing??? the coalition parties???? y dont u apply ur sayings to urself???

kuch to sharam karein sadar sahab... jab bacha bacha gaaliyan dega tab aapko feel hoga k aap unpolpular honay waalay hain???? chalein sharam na karein, damagh hi istemaal ker lein... ohh sorry! chalein aisa karein kisi damagh walay se mashwara ker lein...

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War on Terror, its root cause as per Gillani's point of view

Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani said the war on terrorism and extremism is the war of survival for Pakistan, adding, ‘We will fight this war to ensure the writ of the government.’
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Poverty is the main cause behind terrorism and the government has hammered out policy to cut down this menace to nothing, he observed.

ARY OneWorld Leading News Protal of Pakistan (Urdu - English), Watch Live ARY News


i disagree with both of his stmts.... nothing will happen to pakistan if pakistan stops attacking the bearded pakhtoons just because they do not want american or anyone else's occupation on their land... poverty is not the cause... its foreign occupation on their land... deprivation of rights... suppression of their breed... even if do not do anything for their poverty but u leave their area for them n let them live with their traditions... they'll do no harm to u...

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MQM helps Sindh Assembly pass a unanimous resolution against Musharraf :)

The 168-member assembly of the southern province of Sindh Wednesday unanimously passed a resolution that demanded a vote of confidence on President Pervez Musharraf in the presidential electoral college or his resignation.

One of Musharraf's devout allies, the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM), staged a walkout as the debate on the resolution started, leaving no one in the house to defend the beleaguered leader.

The Sindh assembly has around 69 pro-Musharraf members from the MQM and three other smaller parties.

Sindh Assembly passes resolution against Musharraf's ouster

PML-Q and MQM should have voted and prevent a unanimous resolution... i mean this is the province where mush could get some support... 60 to 70 legislators could have voted for him n let him feel a bit stronger... but the 'representatives' of ppl of khi, who were blindly supporting mush for last so many years, suddenly turned their back towards the president... will the ppl of khi who kept supportin mush for many reasons includin the 'economic boom' ask their legislators y did this happen??? y did the legislators left their beloved man alone in difficult times??? wht is the stance of mqm??? wht caused them to change their loyalties???

From other provinces, where there was no or negligible support for mush, the resolution could not pass unanimously. Even in punjab, where there r so many critics of mush, PML-Q stood bravely for their leader... But in a province where almost 40% legislators were musharraf's ally, the resolution passed without any resistance... '0' votes against the resolution

the credit goes to 'representatives' of ppl of khi, and PML-Q... well done both parties...

it seems tht mqm is now friends with ppp coz it only needs govt. it only needs incentives... who cares for the ppl n their wishes... will ppl of khi think abt this behavior by their party??? will they ever hold them responsible for anything???

the time is not far when ppl of khi who were the strongest supporters of mush, will have anti mush sentiment... ppl r just waitin for an order from the headquarters, their only leader, the world's only honest man... altaf bhai... this is how mqm proceeds... this wht they call politics

Also see the following:

MQM members’ decision to boycott the session was described by Sindh Information Minister Shazia Mari as "a positive role" and a victory for the people of the province.

Earlier, a joint meeting of parliamentary party of MQM in Sindh Assembly and Rabta Committee late on Tuesday night announced that the party would not support the impeachment resolution against President Musharraf. A statement released by MQM affirmed its support for President Musharraf claiming that the party never ditches its friends.

Khaleej Times Online - Sindh MPAs pass no-trust motion against Musharraf

a unanimous resolution clearly shows tht "MQM never ditches its friends" hehehe... it just shows its back when friends need it... MQM actually is a friend in need... i.e. it is friends with u only if it is in need :)... wht does it need???? govt., power n its hold on khi... thts it!

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Corruption charges on mush

DAWN - Cartoon; August 12, 2008

I do not think corruption charges should have been there in charge sheet against mush... because corruption is what every pakistani always does... so y shld hold him responsible for the corruption when there r stronger charges available n greater crimes mush committed... he was responsible for sowing hatred among the federating units against the federation and each other... he is also responsible for damaging constitutional, social, moral, geographic and ideological basis of my country...

i'd say include all charges but do not include the corruption thing... NRO kay  bal pay aanay waalay corruption charges laga rahay hain... seems funny :) the above cartoon is very correct...

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Impeachment ??

WITH the judges issue having apparently taken the back seat, the national scene now seems focussed on the president’s impeachment. Certain questions crop up. If the PPP co-chairperson had to make common cause with the PML-N, why did Mr Asif Ali Zardari have to wait for all these four months? He agreed to sign the Murree Declaration, which visualised an April 30 deadline for the restoration of the judges, extended it to May 12 and later appeared to be going back on it again. If he had agreed to stick to the Murree Declaration the nation would have been spared several unsavoury developments — like the PML-N’s withdrawal from the federal cabinet while the budget-making was on and the lawyers’ long march. The PML-N’s priority all along had been the judges’ restoration, which in its opinion would make President Pervez Musharraf go. It seems Mr Zardari feels that getting rid of the president is easier than restoring the judges.

Now that the grand coalition looks determined to go ahead with Musharraf’s impeachment all sides need to keep in mind the overriding need for ending the agony that has gripped the nation since March 9 last year when Chief Justice Iftikhar was made non-functional. Unfortunately, it is Pakistan that has been non-functional for 17 months, the ‘who will go to Beijing’ controversy itself announcing to the whole world the kind of ludicrous politics that exists in the country. The lawyers are unhappy with Thursday’s announcement, because they wonder what would be their fate if the impeachment move fails. Besides, sections of the people still doubt that the grand coalition will finally clinch it.

The constitution does provide for impeachment, but the procedure has not been spelt out. The National Assembly speaker has to make rules for what is going to be the first — and an unfortunate — constitutional move in Pakistan’s chequered political history. We thus hope that the speaker will make the rules at the earliest.

On Friday, the Senate saw angry exchanges because the opposition expressed the fear that there could be horse-trading to buy votes. To pre-empt the sale and purchase of lawmakers, it is essential that the vote for the impeachment be by a show of hands or division rather than by secret ballot. The president has resolved to fight rather than seek an honourable exit, and there are reports he is being advised recourse to the Supreme Court. This could prove to be a harrowing development, and the crisis could drag on indefinitely, the ultimate sufferer being the people. The onus is on the coalition partners to take the impeachment process to its culmination as quickly as possible. Pakistan has virtually come to a halt, and the nation feels as if there is no government. Dawn Editorial, August 10

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Impeachment vs Restoration

Rise of Pakistan

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delayin tactics

I am unhappy with the decision made by the ruling coalition... impeaching and sending mush home is not the solution... they shld had restored the judges... n then decide whatever they want to... the argument tht restoring judges will result in conflict with presidency is invalid... i mean its strange to assume tht mush will hit back if we restore judges but will remain silent n will not hit back if we directly attack him... come on nawaz n zardari... haven't u seen this guy before???? he has couped twice n each time makin an excuse tht there were conspiracies being hatched against me, so for the 'greater good' of the nation n country i took unconstitutional steps...

mr. nawaz the goal is not achieved... u could not stay firm on ur principle stand... do not call this decision a success... u have been fooled once again i guess :) mush will stay there, rather will become even more powerful... n judges issue will b buried :(

u shld had left the coalition on the basis of all the delaying tactics played by zardari n co. ... now mush can refer to the 'neutralized judiciary' for help, n they'll certainly help him... he is their boss... he appointed them for the 'greater good' of the nation n the state... how can they betray their 'constitutional' boss who is not eligible to b president by any law :) ...

in my opinion mush is in a position to handle this impeachment thing successfully n he'll stay there... only an independent judiciary could have punished him for his wrong doings...

Gumnaam Qabrein...

Jang Group Online

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Movement in decisive phase: Iftikhar

BAHAWALPUR, July 27: Deposed chief justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry said here on Sunday the lawyers’ movement had mustered support at the global level and a number of international bar associations had joined the campaign.

Addressing a lawyers’ convention held under the auspices of the local high court bar association, he said the issue had been ‘internationalised’ and with the masses behind the deposed judges, the movement had reached a decisive juncture. “The people know that only an independent judiciary can guarantee good governance and help solve economic problems,” he said.

The convention was scheduled to be held at 7pm on Saturday, but the motorcade of the chief justice and other judges took 15 hours to reach here from Multan, making brief stopovers in Shujaabad, Jalalpur Peerwala and Lodhran.

Justice Iftikhar praised high court judge Justice Jawad S. Khwaja and civil judge Saeed Khursheed Ahmad for taking a principled stand and quitting their jobs. He said Bahawalpur and Multan bars should confer the title of ‘Farzand-i-Bahawalpur or -Multan’ on Saeed Khursheed. Mr Khursheed, who was posted in Bahawalpur as a civil judge, was the first member of the subordinate judiciary to resign in protest.

Supreme Court Bar Association president Aitzaz Ahsan warned that if the judges were not reinstated by Aug 14, lawyers might decide to launch a civil disobedience movement. He urged Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani to fulfill his promise and reinstate the judges.

Movement in decisive phase: Iftikhar -DAWN - Top Stories; July 28, 2008

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American Aims + Revealing Secrets (Part 2)

Nawa-i-waqt

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Faraar Policy!

		Source:http://nawaiwaqt.com.pk/urdu/daily/july-2008/14/idarati1.php#1

Revealing Secrets: Mush n AQ Khan

Source:http://nawaiwaqt.com.pk/urdu/daily/july-2008/14/idarati1.php#1

Did Feb 18, 2008 change anything???

Nawa-i-waqt

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Where r the leaders???

Nawa-i-waqt

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Clear orders about not supporting those who betray trust... will our govt. listen to it by any chance?????

^An-Nisa

¹⁰⁵ We have sent down to thee the Book in truth, that thou mightest judge between men, as guided by Allah. so be not (used) as an advocate by those who betray their trust;

¹⁰⁶ But seek the forgiveness of Allah. for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

¹⁰⁷ Contend not on behalf of such as betray their own souls; for Allah loveth not one given to perfidy and crime:

¹⁰⁸ They may hide (Their crimes) from men, but they cannot hide (Them) from Allah, seeing that He is in their midst when they plot by night, in words that He cannot approve: And Allah Doth compass round all that they do.

¹⁰⁹ Ah! These are the sort of men on whose behalf ye may contend in this world; but who will contend with Allah on their behalf on the Day of Judgment, or who will carry their affairs through?

¹¹⁰ If any one does evil or wrongs his own soul but afterwards seeks Allah's forgiveness, he will find Allah Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

¹¹¹ And if any one earns sin. he earns it against His own soul: for Allah is full of knowledge and wisdom.

¹¹² But if any one earns a fault or a sin and throws it on to one that is innocent, He carries (on himself) (Both) a falsehood and a flagrant sin.

The Holy Qur'an/An-Nisa - Wikisource

by when will v keep supporting USA on its war on terror????
read 109 and be afraid of the day the ayat is talkin abt...
there is still time, lets return to Allah... read 110... plz return...

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Clear orders about not supporting those who betray trust... will our govt. listen to it by any chance?????

^An-Nisa

¹⁰⁵ We have sent down to thee the Book in truth, that thou mightest judge between men, as guided by Allah. so be not (used) as an advocate by those who betray their trust;

¹⁰⁶ But seek the forgiveness of Allah. for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

¹⁰⁷ Contend not on behalf of such as betray their own souls; for Allah loveth not one given to perfidy and crime:

¹⁰⁸ They may hide (Their crimes) from men, but they cannot hide (Them) from Allah, seeing that He is in their midst when they plot by night, in words that He cannot approve: And Allah Doth compass round all that they do.

¹⁰⁹ Ah! These are the sort of men on whose behalf ye may contend in this world; but who will contend with Allah on their behalf on the Day of Judgment, or who will carry their affairs through?

¹¹⁰ If any one does evil or wrongs his own soul but afterwards seeks Allah's forgiveness, he will find Allah Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

¹¹¹ And if any one earns sin. he earns it against His own soul: for Allah is full of knowledge and wisdom.

¹¹² But if any one earns a fault or a sin and throws it on to one that is innocent, He carries (on himself) (Both) a falsehood and a flagrant sin.

The Holy Qur'an/An-Nisa - Wikisource

by when will v keep supporting USA on its war on terror????
read 109 and be afraid of the day the ayat is talkin abt...
there is still time, lets return to Allah... read 110... plz return...

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Importance of 'Shamsheer-o-Sin'a Awwal'

^An-Nisa

¹⁰² When thou (O Messenger. art with them, and standest to lead them in prayer, Let one party of them stand up (in prayer) with thee, Taking their arms with them: When they finish their prostrations, let them Take their position in the rear. And let the other party come up which hath not yet prayed - and let them pray with thee, Taking all precaution, and bearing arms: the Unbelievers wish, if ye were negligent of your arms and your baggage, to assault you in a single rush. But there is no blame on you if ye put away your arms because of the inconvenience of rain or because ye are ill; but take (every) precaution for yourselves. For the Unbelievers Allah hath prepared a humiliating punishment.

¹⁰³ When ye pass (Congregational) prayers, celebrate Allah's praises, standing, sitting down, or lying down on your sides; but when ye are free from danger, set up Regular Prayers: For such prayers are enjoined on believers at stated times.

¹⁰⁴ And slacken not in following up the enemy: If ye are suffering hardships, they are suffering similar hardships; but ye have Hope from Allah, while they have none. And Allah is full of knowledge and wisdom.

¹⁰⁵ We have sent down to thee the Book in truth, that thou mightest judge between men, as guided by Allah. so be not (used) as an advocate by those who betray their trust;

¹⁰⁶ But seek the forgiveness of Allah. for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

The Holy Qur'an/An-Nisa - Wikisource

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Those who killed Laal Masjid's innocent students, plz read 4:93

^An-Nisa

⁹² Never should a believer kill a believer; but (If it so happens) by mistake, (Compensation is due): If one (so) kills a believer, it is ordained that he should free a believing slave, and pay compensation to the deceased's family, unless they remit it freely. If the deceased belonged to a people at war with you, and he was a believer, the freeing of a believing slave (Is enough). If he belonged to a people with whom ye have treaty of Mutual alliance, compensation should be paid to his family, and a believing slave be freed. For those who find this beyond their means, (is prescribed) a fast for two months running: by way of repentance to Allah. for Allah hath all knowledge and all wisdom.

⁹³ If a man kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell, to abide therein (For ever): And the wrath and the curse of Allah are upon him, and a dreadful penalty is prepared for him.

a muslim is ordered not to take any action (even) against munafiqeen if they join a group who is friends with u... see ayat 90 for example:

⁸⁸ Why should ye be divided into two parties about the Hypocrites? Allah hath upset them for their (evil) deeds. Would ye guide those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way? For those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way, never shalt thou find the Way.

⁸⁹ They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks;-

⁹⁰ Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. If Allah had pleased, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you: Therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not, and (instead) send you (Guarantees of) peace, then Allah Hath opened no way for you (to war against them).

when a munafiq cannot be killed if he/she is with our friends, then how can we justify attackin a group of students -who is inside our country and sitting in a masjid which comes in jurisdiction of the state and does not have ample resources to plot treason- just for keeping some (so called) foreigners with them????

The Holy Qur'an/An-Nisa - Wikisource

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Take not for friends unbelievers rather than believers.The Holy Qur'an/An-Nisa

^An-Nisa
139 Yea, to those who take for friends unbelievers rather than believers: is it honour they seek among them? Nay,- all honour is with Allah.

¹⁴⁰ Already has He sent you Word in the Book, that when ye hear the signs of Allah held in defiance and ridicule, ye are not to sit with them unless they turn to a different theme: if ye did, ye would be like them. For Allah will collect the hypocrites and those who defy faith - all in Hell:-

¹⁴⁴ O ye who believe! Take not for friends unbelievers rather than believers: Do ye wish to offer Allah an open proof against yourselves?

¹⁴⁵ The Hypocrites will be in the lowest depths of the Fire: no helper wilt thou find for them;-

¹⁴⁶ Except for those who repent, mend (their lives) hold fast to Allah, and purify their religion as in Allah's sight: if so they will be (numbered) with the believers. And soon will Allah grant to the believers a reward of immense value.

¹⁴⁷ What can Allah gain by your punishment, if ye are grateful and ye believe? Nay, it is Allah that recogniseth (all good), and knoweth all things.

The Holy Qur'an/An-Nisa - Wikisource

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Afghan opium trade

Afghan opium tradeHAMID Karzai of Kabul may have his concerns, some of them valid, about Pakistan’s role in combating militancy. That said, he is doing little to tackle a major insurgency-related problem that is entirely Afghan in nature. His country saw a record poppy harvest in 2007 that accounted for as much as 92 per cent of global opium production. Worth an estimated $4bn in the international market, Afghanistan’s opium output last year was equivalent to 53 per cent of the country’s licit GDP and another ‘shockingly high’ harvest is expected in 2008, according to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime. True, more than 80 per cent of Afghanistan’s opium is supplied by the Taliban-controlled southern provinces but surely parts of his own country ought to fall under Mr Karzai’s jurisdiction. While the military might of the Taliban may be a factor, Kabul’s hesitancy in cracking down on opium production is also influenced by the systemic corruption plaguing the country. If drug lords sit in parliament, as many allege, is it likely that Mr Karzai will allow meaningful and decisive action against people whose support he needs to stay in power? But then this is just one of many areas where Mr Karzai’s rhetoric, if not vitriol, doesn’t quite match his actions on the ground.

Besides lining the pockets of tribal chiefs and politicians of criminal bent, the Afghan drug trade is fuelling the very insurgency that the country’s government and Nato troops are attempting to quell. By taxing poppy farmers and extorting protection money from operators of morphine and heroin laboratories, the Taliban are estimated to have earned more than $100m last year from Afghanistan’s thriving opium trade. The connection between insurgency and drug trafficking is well established not only in Mr Karzai’s country but across the world, Colombia and its narco-fuelled Farc rebels being a prime example. The Afghan president needs to sever the opium lifeline that feeds home-grown militants and has turned over a million of his people — nearly 3.5 per cent of the country’s population — into heroin addicts with little hope of recovery. He would be doing the rest of the world a favour too, particularly neighbours like Pakistan and Iran. Heroin addiction not only destroys individual lives, it shatters families and perpetuates poverty. It also fuels crime and contributes to the spread of potentially fatal diseases that are transmitted through sexual contact or sharing of needles. Afghanistan, with its monopoly on opium production, needs to get its act together, for its own benefit as well as that of others.

DAWN - Editorial; June 30, 2008

Opium trade was significantly cut short in taliban era (See an excerpt at the end of this post), but still bush etc. blamed them for making profit with a prohibited crop... what is their supported govt. doin now???? y cannt they reduce the production???? How come they r makin profit of all this but still are noble ppl????


Another factor that should not be overlooked is opium. During the Taliban era, opium planting was forbidden. But Aghanistan has a long history as an opium producer. The rise of the Taliban was in some way a blessing in disguise for the Vienna-based U.N. body that has been fighting for a drug-free world. In the last five years, opium production and drug trafficking from Afghanistan have been greatly reduced.

But the fall of the Taliban has given opium farmers opportunities to replant the “heavenly drug.” A farmer from Nangahar, Katib, had intended to plant his field with wheat, but has changed his mind, since the profit from opium is 15 times that of wheat.

It is no secret that opium fields are money fountains for high commanders and warlords as well. Harvest time is known to warlords as a time to fight for expanded opium territory.

http://www.worldpress.org/asia/0202tempo.htm

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